This week’s guests: Ernani Rocha and Bashar Saade of the indie studio Turtle Juice.

Topics discussed:

  • Conducting a successful Steam Greenlight campaign
  • Managing a team that works entirely remote
  • Navigating a working relationship with someone as close as a spouse
  • Dealing with tragedy during the development process, such as the death of your programmer
  • …and much more! ​

Hey everyone,

As you’ll no doubt hear in my message at the beginning of this week’s episode, we have a goal here at Indie Insider – to feature guests from all corners of the video game industry, from all different backgrounds, and from all levels of experience. We believe that insight, advice, and meaningful stories can come from anywhere and from anyone.

That’s why it’s such a pleasure to have Ernani and Bash from Turtle Juice on the show this week. The two bring a sincere and unique perspective to the show when they talk about creating a game inspired by Ernani’s numerous cats, how the two of them work as though they’re in marriage counseling, or how they managed to work through the tragedy of their friend and colleague’s death.

No matter who comes onto the show, they always bring something unique and new to share with all of us. And that’s what Indie Insider is all about.

– Logan Schultz, Indie Insider Host


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